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Post by FabienA380 on May 8, 2013 3:37:17 GMT 1
Anyone knows which is the currently longest scheduled flight for an A330?.. Fabien
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Post by Jkkw on May 8, 2013 5:27:18 GMT 1
According to thisfor the -200, Detroit to Tokyo (Hnd) 10321km, Delta for the -300, Istanbul to Chicago 8836km, Turkish Airlines Previously, QF operated an A330-200 between AKL and LAX which was 10467km.
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Post by FabienA380 on May 8, 2013 5:59:21 GMT 1
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Post by K on May 8, 2013 7:55:46 GMT 1
I searched DL's site, flight from DTW to HND does not exist any more, instead they fly from DTW to NRT using B744..
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 8, 2013 10:41:32 GMT 1
Airbus' efforts to boost A330 sales and production have been successful so far.
39 A330s have been delivered this year (13 in March ! 13 in April !), and sales are following - though at a somewhat slower pace - with some 30 orders expected from QR and Chinese companies.
Have we any idea of market prices ? Are the sales still highly profitable, or is Airbus making huge discounts ?
Anyhow, I hope the success story goes on for a few more years, and I keep my fingers crossed ... I know Airbus officially hopes to keep selling the aircraft into the next decade, but that seems far-fetched. What do you think ?
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 8, 2013 11:10:51 GMT 1
The sales will always fall behind the production rate. I recall Leahy saying that the production rate increase is an effort to reduce the delivery time. One must wait about 3 years to get an A330 delivered and Leahy wants to cut it down to 2 years. This is also a big sales argument because both 787 and A350 are soled out until 2018 and beyond. Next year, the rate will go up to 11 frames per month so Airbus will push out as many A330s as they can.
During an interview last year, Leahy said to expect to sell about 70 A330s per year in the next few years. For 2013, he is definitely on track to meet his target. I believe 27 more A330s for China are also awaiting approval. He did the same number last year but there were some cancellations too.
Now if you have a look at the Airbus presentation about the new Beluga you can analyse the forecasted production rate to 2020 from now:
2013: 10 / month 120 2014: 11 / month 132 2015: 11 / month 132 2016: 10 / month 120 2017: 8 / month 96 2018: 6 / month 72 2019: 5 / month 60 2020: 5 / month 60
So we are looking at ~ 800 more deliveries until the end of the decade. 280 in backlog now, means 800 - 280 = 520 new sales to expect. That's an average of about 65 sales per year.
After 2020, the A330 will probably survive as a freighter.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 8, 2013 11:34:11 GMT 1
Yes, you are right, these are the forecasts, and I do hope that they come true ...
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XWB
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Post by XWB on May 8, 2013 11:37:12 GMT 1
Let's hope so. But so far there are no indications of poor A330 sales.
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Post by mjoelnir on May 8, 2013 12:28:39 GMT 1
The sales will always fall behind the production rate. I recall Leahy saying that the production rate increase is an effort to reduce the delivery time. One must wait about 3 years to get an A330 delivered and Leahy wants to cut it down to 2 years. This is also a big sales argument because both 787 and A350 are soled out until 2018 and beyond. Next year, the rate will go up to 11 frames per month so Airbus will push out as many A330s as they can. During an interview last year, Leahy said to expect to sell about 70 A330s per year in the next few years. For 2013, he is definitely on track to meet his target. I believe 27 more A330s for China are also awaiting approval. He did the same number last year but there were some cancellations too. Now if you have a look at the Airbus presentation about the new Beluga you can analyse the forecasted production rate to 2020 from now: 2013: 10 / month 120 2014: 11 / month 132 2015: 11 / month 132 2016: 10 / month 120 2017: 8 / month 96 2018: 6 / month 72 2019: 5 / month 60 2020: 5 / month 60 So we are looking at ~ 800 more deliveries until the end of the decade. 280 in backlog now, means 800 - 280 = 520 new sales to expect. That's an average of about 65 sales per year. After 2020, the A330 will probably survive as a freighter. Do not forget the MRTT.
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Post by Baroque on May 8, 2013 13:35:53 GMT 1
Now if you have a look at the Airbus presentation about the new Beluga you can analyse the forecasted production rate to 2020 from now: 2013: 10 / month 120 2014: 11 / month 132 2015: 11 / month 132 2016: 10 / month 120 2017: 8 / month 96 2018: 6 / month 72 2019: 5 / month 60 2020: 5 / month 60 So we are looking at ~ 800 more deliveries until the end of the decade. 280 in backlog now, means 800 - 280 = 520 new sales to expect. That's an average of about 65 sales per year. After 2020, the A330 will probably survive as a freighter. Excellent analysis XWB!
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