XWB
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Post by XWB on Jul 18, 2014 22:16:55 GMT 1
I heard engines will be removed soon.
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Post by helios91 on Jul 22, 2014 12:00:34 GMT 1
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Post by Shadow123 on Jul 25, 2014 8:27:31 GMT 1
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Post by a380fanclub on Jul 28, 2014 18:30:46 GMT 1
Japanese press agency bloomberg_co_jp reports that Airbus and Skymark have agreed to cancel the order for 6 A380's on July 28.
It had become impossible for the airline to operate the type. Discussions about compensation and clauses are ongoing.
Other reports say Airbus declines to comment, except that duscussions are ongoing.
Skymark was unwilling to publicly discuss the issue.
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9vswv
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Post by 9vswv on Jul 28, 2014 18:36:27 GMT 1
Japanese press agency bloomberg_co_jp reports that Airbus and Skymark have agreed to cancel the order for 6 A380's on July 28. It had become impossible for the airline to operate the type. Discussions about compensation and clauses are ongoing. Other reports say Airbus declines to comment, except that duscussions are ongoing. Skymark was unwilling to publicly discuss the issue. Everyone knew that Skymark was unable to operate the A380, the only ones who knew were his policies, they had to wait for 2 units they manufactured them to cancel the order. Irrsponsable airline. |
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Post by kevo350 on Jul 28, 2014 19:30:39 GMT 1
How does this affect any more A330 orders, are Airbus going to trust them now.
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Jul 28, 2014 20:28:28 GMT 1
How does this affect any more A330 orders, are Airbus going to trust them now. There are no A330 on order at Skymark. Cancelling the order should be a expensive proposition from Skymark. Especially the two frames already ready for outfitting. Skymark has no bargaining chip as there are no other Airbus frames on order and no order in the works to move the advance payments to. Airbus could play hard ball. So it could be a financial more sound idea for Skymark to defer the orders. |
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9vswv
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Post by 9vswv on Jul 28, 2014 21:39:05 GMT 1
I am amazed by some of the comments upthread, asserting that BC either does not want this aircraft type anymore or cannot finance it ! This is pure fantasy ! Have no doubt, BC has secured funding for its A380 purchases. At this stage, aircraft have been built, BC already has had huge progress payments be paid to Airbus, obviously by some banking institution, so definitely there is no funding problem. It is also too late to back out of the deal, BC would suffer huge losses. BC is not a bankrupt company, it is a going concern! The frames cannot just be transferred to another buyer, they are reserved for BC, which has ordered them, and they are going to be stored until building can be resumed. What has happened is a problem with some buyer furnished equipment (BFE), which can be long lead items. We don't know which equipment is concerned, but I am not surprised that a new supply takes several months ... This is unfortunate, but errors do happen (would you have believed the A380 programme could be endangered by wiring issues?). I suppose BC hoped the problem could somehow be fixed without rejecting the supply (hence the transfer to XFW), but Airbus determined there was no way to do that safely (remember that sentence in BC's explanations). Of course, Airbus is not going to comment on a customer's blunders ... One point may have been omitted by BC, though : the delay may be useful to them, if they are struggling to get ready to start the A380 operation. Well, what you think now? At it time, 1 month ago, Airline and Airbus said: "problems with interiors cabin". Now, i have a question, about QR problems, are they true or is another airline without money for pay. Now, when you (Airline) don't have money for pay, well, you have problems with interiors cabin... Why EK interior cabins always are good? well they have money for pay their airplanes. |
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someone
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Post by someone on Jul 28, 2014 22:01:33 GMT 1
How does this affect any more A330 orders, are Airbus going to trust them now. There are no A330 on order at Skymark. Cancelling the order should be a expensive proposition from Skymark. Especially the two frames already ready for outfitting. Skymark has no bargaining chip as there are no other Airbus frames on order and no order in the works to move the advance payments to. Airbus could play hard ball. So it could be a financial more sound idea for Skymark to defer the orders. While not directly with Airbus, their order for 10 leases for the A330 may in some way be linked i to this |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Jul 28, 2014 23:03:05 GMT 1
Well, what you think now? Not much, I find it hard to believe that Skymark is desperate enough to cancel the order at this advanced stage. Probably BC's financial situation deteriorated to a point I could not imagine. If you want me to say that I was wrong, well, I was.  |
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