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Post by peter on Oct 27, 2014 20:30:45 GMT 1
It must be one of four A380's offered by ICCJET. I doubt very much that Airbus will sell brand new aircraft through some shabby Ukrainian company
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Post by peter on Oct 27, 2014 20:50:48 GMT 1
Interesting. I wonder why the tail cone is in primer. I don't see any primer on the tail cone, just bare steel around the APU exhaust. I suppose because the coat is not heat resistant (in case they want to start it up). Carbon fiber parts (wing fairings and all antennes on top) are bare also, no need for coating non-aluminum parts.
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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 27, 2014 21:36:24 GMT 1
Still with engines attached .. Interesting indeed... Why reprimer the frame (hint for long time storage??...) but leave the engines on?... My guess could be that MSN162 might just be transiting from somewhere to elsewhere, where the engines might be taken off in a few days...
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Post by helios91 on Oct 27, 2014 22:21:27 GMT 1
Still with engines attached .. Interesting indeed... Why reprimer the frame (hint for long time storage??...) but leave the engines on?... My guess could be that MSN162 might just be transiting from somewhere to elsewhere, where the engines might be taken off in a few days... Could it be stored in the desert somewhere before winter in Europe ? Those blue engines with the red strip in front are really like the BA ones; it would have been easy if BA had taken one of this frame.......!!!!! but then why reprimer the frame..........
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Post by julytourist on Oct 28, 2014 0:59:40 GMT 1
BA have a strategy for new routes, new frames and their cash flows over a set period no doubt with their own quality control for parts in build. Why would they wish to pick up a second hand frame out of their timing and when they are contractually bound for the parts in build on their designated frames? Not just because the engines are painted blue!! BA seem happy with their 12 and unlikely to take up their option for more Only a really rock bottom price might tempt them to change their strategy to add extra frames/routes but I doubt it.....JT
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Post by philidor on Oct 28, 2014 11:08:09 GMT 1
It is a stretch to call this aircraft second-hand. She was never delivered, never owned by anybody but Airbus. She comes straight from the factory. She has not been fitted out, and she could still meet any buyer's specs (except EA engines).
It takes time, however, to plan the introduction of such a large aircraft into your fleet. If Airbus is in a hurry to sell her, then a larger than usual discount is necessary, but otherwise it's just a sale - not a fire sale.
Apart from the engines, the main problem seems to be that to sell her Airbus needs a new order, and there are few of them ... It would be much easier if a few customers were asking for earlier delivery dates.
The MSN 162 engine issue also highlights the reason why lessors generally don't like engine options : they make it more difficult to re-market aircraft from a bankrupt airline.
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Post by UK380 on Oct 28, 2014 15:21:36 GMT 1
If we think back to the Qantas examples they were stored outside in TLS for a winter. I think Airbus have just applied storage primer (the tail come does not get it as its metal and, I assume, a consumable part. I also suspect the tail has not been painted over and that they have removed the Skymark logo's and a trace has been left on. I am surprised that the engines have remained on though, I thought they would have been dropped from the aircraft and put into separate storage.
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Post by FabienA380 on Oct 29, 2014 22:34:04 GMT 1
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Post by xxxx on Oct 30, 2014 11:28:13 GMT 1
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Post by peter on Oct 30, 2014 17:06:41 GMT 1
There seem to be more activity with the stored-frames than non-stored frames There will be a time when an A380 is "just another aircraft"....
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