philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 7, 2018 14:20:03 GMT 1
With A320 monthly delivery numbers going up, don't forget that for every 45 new ones 30 odd go for scrap each month aswell. I think it's not that clear-cut. Aircraft are often stored, sometimes used at peak periods only. This is even more true for freighters. |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Feb 7, 2018 15:18:16 GMT 1
With A320 monthly delivery numbers going up, don't forget that for every 45 new ones 30 odd go for scrap each month aswell. I think it's not that clear-cut. Aircraft are often stored, sometimes used at peak periods only. This is even more true for freighters. This one like two other Swiss A320s is at St Athan for the chop. |
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Post by sciing on Feb 7, 2018 15:22:28 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on Feb 8, 2018 2:43:00 GMT 1
damn... even in the freighter market the 321 is pitted as a 757 replacement...it almost feels personal... hahaha...
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Post by kevin5345179 on Feb 9, 2018 17:29:42 GMT 1
I don't really think HNA will shrink in its aviation business. Don't believe HNA will get into too much trouble myself. A liquidity crisis is pretty serious. Whether they like it or not, they have to sell assets very quickly if they want to stay in business. What is more difficult is to predict what exactly they can sell in the next weeks or months. Most of their assets are said to be real estate (hotels ...), and aviation. HK Airlines might well be for sale now. they just got 3.2B www.reuters.com/article/us-hna-citic/chinas-hna-group-gets-3-2-billion-credit-from-citic-bank-idUSKBN1FT1QJ |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 9, 2018 17:55:42 GMT 1
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Post by XWB on Feb 9, 2018 18:20:41 GMT 1
The main question is which valuable assets can easily be sold. That's not so easy, in my opinion, when everybody in business knows you are forced to sell, and expects firesale prices. According to the article, HNA Group is focused on selling buildings: |
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Post by philidor on Feb 10, 2018 0:10:13 GMT 1
According to the article, HNA Group is focused on selling buildings: Yes, but in their situation you sell what you can, not what you would like to sell. The outcome is unpredictable. |
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Post by marlibu on Feb 11, 2018 13:56:03 GMT 1
wow.. from an outsider perspective...how can you think about selling swissport...probably it's the aircraft geek in me...but.. that sounds like a relatively safe way to turn over cash..
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Post by stealthmanbob on Feb 11, 2018 17:09:43 GMT 1
wow.. from an outsider perspective...how can you think about selling swissport...probably it's the aircraft geek in me...but.. that sounds like a relatively safe way to turn over cash.. Which is exactly the same reason why it would be easy to sell and at a good price  |
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