Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Jan 13, 2015 17:23:37 GMT 1
The last widebody delivered by Airbus in 2014 was their 2,500th. They've come a long way in the 40 years since A300 EIS. Congratulations. Geoff That is significant! To whom does this milestone aircraft belong to?  |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 13, 2015 19:54:20 GMT 1
The last widebody delivered by Airbus in 2014 was their 2,500th. They've come a long way in the 40 years since A300 EIS. Congratulations. Geoff That is significant! To whom does this milestone aircraft belong to? A leased A330-200F delivered to Avianca Cargo. |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 17, 2015 18:56:37 GMT 1
Widebody orders and Orderbooks - Review of 2014Boeing outsold Airbus on net orders by 328 to 135. Emirates decision to order 150 777Xs and cancel 70 A350s largely determined this. Despite record deliveries, Boeing increased their orderbook by 90, to 1490 and even with their best year for deliveries and the Emirates cancellation, Airbus' orderbook only fell by 4 to 1257. Sales were dominated by models under development , 220 for the 777x and 120 for the A330neo. Counting only available models, all families declined in terms of orderbook, even the 787 and the A350. The existing 777 models sold well but A330'ceo' models 'stopped selling' once the 'neo' was launched. The 777-300ER is well ahead as the best selling model ( series ) but will be challenged by the 787-9 and the A350-900 in years to come as it gets closer to being replaced by the 777x. 787-9 has clearly replaced the 787-8 as the favourite model in their family. The A330 'ceo' orderbook stands at 193 and Airbus are seeking to sell another 80 to 90 to avoid a substantial drop in production in 2016/17. Boeing will want to sell at least another 200 777s for delivery in 2017/19, to bridge to the 777X. The A350-800 still has an orderbook of 16 even though it will not be produced. Airbus badly need A380 sales if they are to keep production at 30/year. The 747 looks as though it will end production within 3 years with an orderbook of just 36. The 777-200LR orderbook has gone to zero. You can see the details here ; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LK3NGr1kFwYC9bk8u52J3X28fTAr3kPttsktJYHt2U8/edit#gid=0Geoff
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Post by s543 on Jan 17, 2015 23:28:37 GMT 1
Geoff do you have the 330MRTT inculded in the numbers ?
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Post by ghorn on Jan 18, 2015 0:09:54 GMT 1
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Post by s543 on Jan 18, 2015 10:44:14 GMT 1
Thanks for info. I was looking into your sheet and checking (mainly 777) a bit on airfleets.net and found the following: you have 768 777-300ER + 422 777-200ER = 1190 + 144 777F i.e. those three give us 1334 ? but only 1265 all 777 together ? those numbers give us 69 more than exists. Where are 777-200, 777-200LR and 777-300 or they are not distinguished ? Airfleets knows about 1265 frames so the total number seems to be correct. Airfleets know about exactly 100 777F ? Sorry to bring messy remarks.  |
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Post by ghorn on Jan 18, 2015 11:42:43 GMT 1
Thanks for info. I was looking into your sheet and checking (mainly 777) a bit on airfleets.net and found the following: you have 768 777-300ER + 422 777-200ER = 1190 + 144 777F i.e. those three give us 1334 ? but only 1265 all 777 together ? those numbers give us 69 more than exists. Where are 777-200, 777-200LR and 777-300 or they are not distinguished ? Airfleets knows about 1265 frames so the total number seems to be correct. Airfleets know about exactly 100 777F ? Sorry to bring messy remarks. Thanks for your queries. I think you are comparing sales ( orders plus deliveries ) with deliveries. The total sales for the 777 family ( model in Boeing speak ) is 1827. The total delivered to date is 1263. These totals include all model series including those no longer in production. Hope this helps. Geoff |
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s543
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Post by s543 on Jan 18, 2015 12:29:57 GMT 1
Right Goeff - you are correct. The table is sort of confusing. We have: -deliveries -orders = sold frames -unfilled orders -sold frames ("maybe" - since there will come cancelations) where sold = deliveries + unfilled orders. OK I was trying to find out how many various types are out there - produced - and it is not in your table . I am a dummie since I should have seen it myself. One more remark we have astounding 1537 747 sold frames out of it 442 -400 + mere 51 -800 i.e. we have 1070 of -100 -200 -300 -SP. I was checking the -200 and there seems to be more than 317....? |
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Post by ghorn on Jan 18, 2015 15:06:13 GMT 1
These are Boeing's own figures, hope the formatting is OK :
747 Model Summary Through December 2014
Model Series Orders Deliveries Unfilled
747-300 56 56 -
747-200C 13 13 -
747-400ERF 40 40 -
747-SP 45 45 -
747-300SR 4 4 -
747-8F 68 56 12
747-400D 19 19 -
747-100SR 29 29 -
747-E4A 3 3 -
747-200M 78 78 -
747-200B 225 225 -
747-100B 9 9 -
747-E4B 1 1 -
747-400 442 442 -
747-200F 73 73 -
747-8 51 27 24
747-400ER 6 6 -
747-400M 61 61 -
747-300M 21 21 -
747-100 167 167 -
747-400F 126 126 -
747 Total 1537 1501
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Post by XWB on Jan 18, 2015 15:39:08 GMT 1
Geoff do you have the 330MRTT inculded in the numbers ? Airbus have yet to firm the France order for 12 A330MRTT jets. |
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