ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 14, 2014 11:14:46 GMT 1
I've attached figures updated for 2013 Year End. All figures are from Airbus and Boeing websites. Sales = Orders + Deliveries. A few things which stand out for me ; 777 sales now greater than 747 Total for all A300 derivatives ( including the A330 ) now exceeds 2500. A330-300 still selling and narrowing the gap to the best selling 777-300ER. EK's massive order for the 777X not yet firmed and will have big impact on figures when it is. Both the A350-800 and the 787-8 are declining in sales. I believe the 787-8 was at 650+ four years ago and is now less than 500. Airlines seem to be opting for bigger models. Best wishes, Geoff |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Jan 14, 2014 13:36:34 GMT 1
Thank you, ghorn, for the interesting table.
Just a question : do you consider a sub-type as "current" until it is not produced or sold any more, or until it is not flying any more ? In the first case, 747-400s should not be in the list, in the second case A340s could be added.
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 14, 2014 16:34:37 GMT 1
Thank you, ghorn, for the interesting table. Just a question : do you consider a sub-type as "current" until it is not produced or sold any more, or until it is not flying any more ? In the first case, 747-400s should not be in the list, in the second case A340s could be added. Thanks Philidor, I've realised that I had posted the wrong spreadsheet, now updated. I've changed the wording to make it hopefully clearer. The top 10 are all models, current and past. The others are only those in production. Geoff |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 19, 2014 14:22:39 GMT 1
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Post by ghorn on Feb 8, 2014 1:07:43 GMT 1
Not many changes in January with Boeing posting orders for 4 777 freighters and 1 787-8 BBJ. Airbus added 2 A350-900. The big move was a further 10 A350-800s being converted to A350-900s. This leaves the A350-900 set to move to 3rd on the 'all-time list'. The A350-800 now has only 46 orders with Airbus reportedly keen for these to be converted to other types. I'll be interested to see how well the A330 and 777 can be sold with many delivery slots available for 2016-2019. Geoff |
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Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Feb 12, 2014 0:51:30 GMT 1
This is fairly vague milestone to me. Do you just consider the name of the model or the physical make up of the plane?  |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Feb 12, 2014 2:21:57 GMT 1
Welcome back to the forum, Baroque !
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Feb 12, 2014 17:11:16 GMT 1
This is fairly vague milestone to me. Do you just consider the name of the model or the physical make up of the plane? I use the aircraft manufacturer's own definitions and numbers. There are inconsistencies between Airbus and Boeing and indeed within each companies own records. I'm keeping records for both the individual model ( which Boeing calls Series ? ) and for the family ( which Boeing calls Model ). Is there an aspect of these figures which you don't like ? Geoff |
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Post by Baroque on Feb 13, 2014 1:05:06 GMT 1
There are inconsistencies between Airbus and Boeing and indeed within each companies own records. I'm keeping records for both the individual model ( which Boeing calls Series ? ) and for the family ( which Boeing calls Model ). If you go by just the model number, you have 1544 B777, 1537 B747 and 1313 A330 for the top three. But the first two span over multiple generations and if you consider the technical aspects, the only major similarities between those generations are the fuselage width, nose and tail. Everything else, the engines, flight deck, the wings, the fuse lengths are different. Applying the same criteria to the Airbus widebodies, the A330 is actually a next generation A300/A310. So Roger Béteille's 222-in fuselage becomes the best-selling widebody and the first to break the 2000 mark with a total of 2129 for the twins. Then, the A340? Do you consider it a part of the A330 family despite the 2 extra engines like Airbus themselves say. The 737 and 707 have similar fuselage widths and nose shape, but the former is a twin and the latter is a quad. Going by Boeing's system, A300/A310/A330 have to be lumped into one family and while the A340 is kept separate. Welcome back to the forum, Baroque ! Thanks philidor. Looks like you moved ahead of me to outfitting, while I mothballed myself away for the past few months...  |
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Post by philidor on Feb 13, 2014 2:25:13 GMT 1
Thanks philidor. Looks like you moved ahead of me to outfitting, while I mothballed myself away for the past few months... Aha! I'm looking forward to being painted and looking fine ! |
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