Taliesin
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Post by Taliesin on Jul 30, 2015 0:35:40 GMT 1
Now the question is, how it will affect the on-going underwater search. I think it won't, hijacking or technical error, it is (if it wasn't before) clear that the plane crashed in the indian ocean. After over a year, I don't think any conclusions can be drawn as to the origin of the part, the uncertainty is just too big for the ocean currents to be reconstructed. It should put some of the more ridiculous conspiracy theories to rest, though.. like the one where the plane was spotted in Kazakhstan or some such.
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Post by Baroque on Jul 30, 2015 1:26:07 GMT 1
After over a year, I don't think any conclusions can be drawn as to the origin of the part, the uncertainty is just too big for the ocean currents to be reconstructed. Almost negligible odds of tracing back to the exact spot, but with this evidence we probably should be able to confirm using current data that the patch of ocean we are looking at is indeed correct, and remove any doubts about the satellite data. Also, a small chance that the part may reveal other information such as the g-forces endured on impact, the attitude at which it hit the water etc. Parts from AF447 helped arrive at good early theories about how it impacted the water. Hopefully such information may help refine the data used to determine the search area.
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Post by philidor on Jul 30, 2015 1:38:30 GMT 1
The finding will increase confidence in the chances for success of the ongoing search. It may therefore help to solve funding issues. The search, however, remains as difficult as before.
On the other hand, don't expect conspiracy theorists to become less vocal. On the contrary, they already 'know' that the part has been planted there to hide the truth ...
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Post by Taliesin on Jul 30, 2015 19:01:36 GMT 1
Also, a small chance that the part may reveal other information such as the g-forces endured on impact, the attitude at which it hit the water etc. Parts from AF447 helped arrive at good early theories about how it impacted the water. Hopefully such information may help refine the data used to determine the search area. I don't think there will be much information as to that. The airplane flew for hours and crashed into the ocean due to fuel starvation. How exactly that came about doesn't tell us much about the origins of the incident. Now, if the flaperon showed signs of fire damage or had bullet holes...
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Post by stealthmanbob on Jul 30, 2015 23:09:15 GMT 1
Also, a small chance that the part may reveal other information such as the g-forces endured on impact, the attitude at which it hit the water etc. Parts from AF447 helped arrive at good early theories about how it impacted the water. Hopefully such information may help refine the data used to determine the search area. I don't think there will be much information as to that. The airplane flew for hours and crashed into the ocean due to fuel starvation. How exactly that came about doesn't tell us much about the origins of the incident. Now, if the flaperon showed signs of fire damage or had bullet holes... I think I have worked it out, it was not brought down by fire, or a missile or even ice, it was the build up of shellfish
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Post by Baroque on Jul 31, 2015 4:03:20 GMT 1
I don't think there will be much information as to that. The airplane flew for hours and crashed into the ocean due to fuel starvation. How exactly that came about doesn't tell us much about the origins of the incident. Now, if the flaperon showed signs of fire damage or had bullet holes... I was thinking that, if the piece showed strong evidence of extreme g-forces, it might be used to dispel some of those theories that the aircraft may have been piloted right up to the end and put "gently" into the water in a controlled manner so as to shed as little debris as possible. Back in March, the Chief Commissioner of the ATSB had this to say in a bloomberg article I linked earlier in this thread:
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Post by Jkkw on Aug 5, 2015 21:37:40 GMT 1
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Post by Baroque on Aug 6, 2015 5:51:23 GMT 1
Well that settles that part of it (no pun intended), unless you're into conspiracies or believe that a B77E managed to plunk a piece of it into the very same ocean as where MH370 ended of all places the type flies.
I'm still quite surprised as to how absolutely nothing was found along the Western Australian coastline even though it is much closer to the presumed crash location. Does nothing in terms of ocean garbage wash ashore there? It must be one of the cleanest coastlines if not!
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Post by Jkkw on Aug 6, 2015 9:06:36 GMT 1
I'm still quite surprised as to how absolutely nothing was found along the Western Australian coastline even though it is much closer to the presumed crash location. Does nothing in terms of ocean garbage wash ashore there? It must be one of the cleanest coastlines if not! A Malaysia Airlines branded towelette was found last year on the WA coast although it would be almost impossible to prove that the item was from MH370. www.smh.com.au/national/search-for-mh370-moist-towelette-discovery-unlikely-to-help-find-missing-flight-20150310-13zy0i.htmlGiven the size of the WA coastline and how sparsely populated most areas are, it wouldn't surprise me if some debris did indeed wash ashore with debris either yet to be discovered or washed back out to sea.
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Post by stealthmanbob on Aug 6, 2015 11:04:54 GMT 1
Well that settles that part of it (no pun intended), unless you're into conspiracies or believe that a B77E managed to plunk a piece of it into the very same ocean as where MH370 ended of all places the type flies. I'm still quite surprised as to how absolutely nothing was found along the Western Australian coastline even though it is much closer to the presumed crash location. Does nothing in terms of ocean garbage wash ashore there? It must be one of the cleanest coastlines if not! If you look at the computer generated animation of the ocean currents it's an anti clockwise ish swirl, so no / very little debris for Australia, most of it would got the other way(left), the model shows That MH370 debris was predicted to go towards Reunion island and the Madagascar coast. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33799205
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