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Post by xxxx on Mar 30, 2014 17:15:16 GMT 1
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 30, 2014 17:59:15 GMT 1
An A322, or whatever one wants to call her, could be a way for Airbus to make a move on a niche Boeing could not easily follow into. IMO it is far easier to expand the A321 with more range and/or capacity than the B737. It would still be a big change as the A321 would need a new wing. But IMO the main problem would be finding the production capacity.
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Post by xxxx on Mar 30, 2014 18:10:27 GMT 1
I think its actually not too far off...Airbus to expand the A321 and finally take away the market for a new 757.
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Post by XWB on Mar 30, 2014 19:00:42 GMT 1
Many people believe Boeing will work on a 757 successor. In respond, Airbus could stretch the A321 fuselage, enlarge the wings and equip it with GTF engines.  Alternatively they could work on a clean-sheet program which should also include the A320 successor. The 757 market is not that big so any 757 replacement will be part of the 737/A320 family. Airbus is also working on the Open Rotor project. The engine itself should fly towards the end of the decade on an A340 testbed. |
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Post by mjoelnir on Mar 30, 2014 21:16:02 GMT 1
Many people believe Boeing will work on a 757 successor. In respond, Airbus could stretch the A321 fuselage, enlarge the wings and equip it with GTF engines. View AttachmentAlternatively they could work on a clean-sheet program which should also include the A320 successor. The 757 market is not that big so any 757 replacement will be part of the 737/A320 family. Airbus is also working on the Open Rotor project. The engine itself should fly towards the end of the decade on an A340 testbed. I think open rotor is a project. The main problem will be noise, the second will be cruise speed. IMO it is not clear today if that will ever be viable. Regarding a "A322", using the A321 as a base gives a short time to market. A A32X replacement will move up in mean size, but I think it is some time before we see it. |
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Post by Baroque on Mar 31, 2014 4:43:36 GMT 1
Airbus's 757 replacement will be developed as an extension of the current A321, probably with some significant wing changes and higher thrust engines. Doesn't make sense to do an all-new design.
I can't remember where but I recall reading that Airbus may split the A320 replacement into two families featuring a common fuselage. The low capacity end could have the slow open rotor design, while the higher capacity end could feature the regular turbofan design.
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Post by someone on Mar 31, 2014 13:21:16 GMT 1
Not sure about the business case for a A322. The issue isn't the wing or engine, but the length of the fuselage. This was one issue with the 757-300, where the long fuselage and one aisle significantly increased the turn around time
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Post by XWB on Mar 31, 2014 13:23:17 GMT 1
That will apply for the 757 successor as well, assuming it will be a bit larger.
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Post by Jkkw on Mar 31, 2014 14:07:06 GMT 1
Not sure about the business case for a A322. The issue isn't the wing or engine, but the length of the fuselage. This was one issue with the 757-300, where the long fuselage and one aisle significantly increased the turn around time Well the 757-300 only sold 55 frames (according to wikipedia) so I'm guessing the market is mainly for a 757-200 replacement. On a side note, should we split this discussion of an 'A322' into another thread? |
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Post by s543 on Mar 31, 2014 14:27:16 GMT 1
My guess: A322 is NEVER going to happen in foreseeable future. Simply there is no market for those birds. As discussed elsewhere there is only less than 4% routes (mostly thin TATL) A321ceo/739ER-NG can not make. Than there is A330, B787... Long fuselages are problematic to load-unload. Just remember how many tail strike there is for A321/739 compared to other planes. The long plane looks nice and sleek from the outside but the business case is not there.  |
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