XWB
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Post by XWB on Sept 13, 2014 22:15:50 GMT 1
It's not Airbus concern anymore once the jets are contractually delivered (i.e. the money has been transferred). In fact, the airline would have to pay storage fees instead (like Qantas does for the Jetstar A320s).
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s543
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Post by s543 on Sept 13, 2014 22:24:01 GMT 1
OF course - but they DID find financing so delivery occured - that is all the time the point.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Sept 13, 2014 22:28:26 GMT 1
It's very difficult to delay once the jet is in an advanced stage of assembly (like painted and cabin fitted). The contract between the aircraft maker and the customer basically force you to take the aircraft once it's ready for delivery. There are always exceptions of course, Afriqiyah Airways and Libyan Airlines for example cannot take their brand new A330s due to the war. But in general is nearly impossible.
Besides, given the large amount of pre-payments the airline already made, it would be foolish to not accept the airframe from a rational point of view. And on top of that, Airbus could start a lawsuit as specified in the contract that would cost the customer even more money.
So if you want to delay the delivery, you should do that before assembly starts.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Sept 14, 2014 7:37:28 GMT 1
And, in this case, the issue is the lessor's. Airbus is fully paid by the lessor whatever happens. Leasing aircraft is by no means a risk-free business !
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s543
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Post by s543 on Sept 14, 2014 9:14:58 GMT 1
Good to see that all 3 of them make 2-4 japanese local roundtrips/day. Mostly HND-FUK some HND-CTS. How profitable such an operation is ? It could be only training similar to ANA and JAL with new 788. But at least they are used and in the air  |
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henge
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Post by henge on Sept 22, 2014 6:54:33 GMT 1
On Saturday, I had the pleasure to fly from Sapporo (CTS) to Tokyo (HND) with Skymark on JA330D! Really an amazing experience!  My thoughts: - Feels really premium! 7 abreast on a A330 gives you a lot of space, and the seat pitch at 38(?) inches is just a dream for economy fliers... - In contrast to Skymark's B737s, flight attendants are all very young, beautiful, and exclusively female. While other Skymark employees wear orange polo shirts and/or grey-blue jackets (they tend to look more like janitors...), on the A330 they all wear the same cute blue dress with a little hat on their heads. Not sure how I feel about what that says about Skymark though... - Tickets still cost about the same as for the same flight on a crowded B737. I hardly think this can go on forever, and eventually they will substantially raise ticket prices for the A330 routes. Glad I had the chance to fly now! Here are some pictures:    |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Sept 22, 2014 8:05:40 GMT 1
Lucky man ! I wish all domestic flights were what you described ...
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Post by airny on Sept 22, 2014 9:01:40 GMT 1
henge, just curious, how was the load factor?
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henge
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Post by henge on Sept 22, 2014 9:29:12 GMT 1
airny, I don't have any statistics of the flight, but my feeling is that it must have been close to 100%. I didn't see any free seats. It was mostly businessmen and -women in suits, carrying only light baggage.
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Post by airny on Sept 22, 2014 9:49:44 GMT 1
Thanks henge, I was just wondering about that. Seems decent for a Saturday flight. I hope they will do well. |
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