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Post by f5 on Nov 20, 2015 10:46:38 GMT 1
I check the firing order and on first sight there is one strange thing. THAI will get MSN 50, so it should be already in the very advanced stage of production (probably loaded into FAL before YE). But there is no other palne for THAI in the next 25 planes. So in the most optimistic scenario (MSN76 is for THAI and delivery rates could be at the time 4,5 planes/month) it left THAI for 5 months with just one plane only. I wonder how this is possible and to be honest never saw something like this.
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Post by XWB on Nov 20, 2015 10:48:00 GMT 1
Thai will get two planes: MSN 44 and 50.
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Post by someone on Nov 20, 2015 12:01:50 GMT 1
Also just China airlines again said they would have 4 frames delivered in 2016. And yet I see only 3 frames for them up to MSN80. Any ideas about that one? The firing order has changed, it seems MSN 73 is the 4th A350 for China airlines. I just updated the spread sheet. What were the other changes? I don't have a copy of the old firing order, so just wonder what otehr changes there were?
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Post by philidor on Nov 20, 2015 13:59:28 GMT 1
I have doubts about the first delivery dates. "PAL is close to committing to at least six A350-900s for delivery from 2017. A formal announcement is expected by the end of 2015". "PAL is looking to acquire a new high gross weight (HGW) version of the A350-900 which is available from 2017 and will enable non-stop Manila-New York flights in both directions without payload limitations. Airbus has informed PAL that it does not need the recently launched A350-900ULR, which will be available from 2018 and has been ordered by Singapore Airlines for non-stops to the US". So, PAL is said to be interested in an A359 HGW version, available from 2017 - not the newly launched ULR version, available from 2018. The launch customer of that version must therefore have delivery slots in 2017, and PAL is not an A350 customer yet. I am not sure Airbus could offer them 2017 delivery slots.
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Post by XWB on Nov 20, 2015 14:08:48 GMT 1
Someone has to take those TAP slots
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Post by philidor on Nov 20, 2015 15:24:30 GMT 1
Someone has to take those TAP slots That's true, but I would expect Airbus to have sold these slots far ahead of official cancellation, or to have used them to offset overbooking.
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Post by Jkkw on Nov 21, 2015 11:50:37 GMT 1
Someone has to take those TAP slots That's true, but I would expect Airbus to have sold these slots far ahead of official cancellation, or to have used them to offset overbooking. Well PR has been studying the A350 and 787 for a number of months so I don't see why Airbus could not have offered them the slots once they knew TAP was going to convert to the A330neo. The slots could also have come from the 7 SQ aircraft that were cancelled although we don't exactly know when these aircraft were originally planned to be delivered.
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Post by XWB on Dec 4, 2015 10:30:16 GMT 1
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Post by fanairbus on Dec 4, 2015 10:40:38 GMT 1
A very interesting comparison table of the 'efficiency' of the A350-900 with the 787-9 here - if true!
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Post by s543 on Dec 4, 2015 11:56:38 GMT 1
A very interesting comparison table of the 'efficiency' of the A350-900 with the 787-9 here - if true! It would be an astonishing 9,76% per passenger in common realistic configuration. Even the absolute numbers are amazing considering the weight - 9,89% bigger versus 1,49% lower consumption. i.e. the consumption per kg of weight is unbelievable 11,38% better ! Is it possible ?
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