tris06
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Post by tris06 on Sept 15, 2016 3:32:24 GMT 1
Basically their belief is that its a mistake to try flying to London. And would be better served maxing out USA/Canada routes.
I think either way its going to be tough going. But with Eva air expanding almost exclusively into USA and nothing into Europe then maybe its an option.. One will have to hope UK travel numbers increase a bit once things start.
I know also the A330 (Some frames less than 2-3 years old) from personal experience is not that outdated. So don't know where they are coming from in that way. If priced no higher than 6000 AUD I think their will be some business class passenger traffic mostly self funded retired people.
Economy is where the toughest challenge is as people really want just cheap cheap cheap.
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XWB
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Post by XWB on Sept 15, 2016 8:56:31 GMT 1
Planes like the 787 and A350 can make this kind of routes viable.
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tris06
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Post by tris06 on Sept 17, 2016 11:09:47 GMT 1
Planes like the 787 and A350 can make this kind of routes viable. I agree with you there. According to the chinese websites its end of 2017 not 2016. We will just have to wait and see. If they start this route at the end of 2016 they may need to use the a340 as i am not sure in January 2017 they will have enough frames to fly London,Amsterdam,Rome and Vienna. True none of these routes are daily. |
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Post by Jkkw on Sept 18, 2016 14:31:25 GMT 1
Planes like the 787 and A350 can make this kind of routes viable. I agree with you there. According to the chinese websites its end of 2017 not 2016. We will just have to wait and see. If they start this route at the end of 2016 they may need to use the a340 as i am not sure in January 2017 they will have enough frames to fly London,Amsterdam,Rome and Vienna. True none of these routes are daily. 2017 makes a lot more sense, as the CAPA article says, it will be difficult to get decent loads/yields given how little time there is to sell/market seats on the flights given there are only 3 months until the end of the year. |
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Post by Jkkw on Nov 19, 2016 9:45:23 GMT 1
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tris06
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Post by tris06 on Nov 19, 2016 12:45:27 GMT 1
Taipei Taoyuan – Honolulu Airbus A350-900XWB replaces A330-300, 2 weekly
Taipei Taoyuan – Vancouver Airbus A350-900XWB replaces 747-400, 5 weekly....
On top of this they have
Vienna, Rome and Amsterdam none of them daily.2-5 weekly scheduled.
All the rest are 2-3hr max flights in Asia.
So these long haul destinations probably only need like 5/6 planes.
The regional destinations (Quite a few destinations) wouldn't take more than an additional 2 planes with a spare and often CI uses planes on regionals between long haul flights to keep efficiency high.
So that gets us to 7/8 planes. With 4 delivered in 2016 and 6 more delivered in 2017 they have enough room to fit another 1/2 mid/long haul routes by the end of 2017.
Very preliminary.
BNE office has told me they expect the A350 sometime in 2017 and its definitely needed when the A330 is not enough in the December- Feb or June-Sep period. How horrible it has been to try to get a flight 5 months out (September 2016) and be told the 2-3 weeks around Chinese new year and Christmas is fully booked out except for Business class.
And now 2 months later still waiting on the list (And I am the 1st one in the line too being an emerald member).
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Post by Jkkw on Dec 28, 2016 9:55:57 GMT 1
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Post by marlibu on Dec 28, 2016 17:53:31 GMT 1
Hi Guys, is the economics of the A350 that much better than the 777-300ER, that it allows CI to increase frequency and still come out ahead? |
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Post by gdumas on Dec 28, 2016 18:44:52 GMT 1
Hi Guys, is the economics of the A350 that much better than the 777-300ER, that it allows CI to increase frequency and still come out ahead? I wouldn't say "that much better", but it offers lower capacity (52 less seats for CI compared to 77W) and lower fuel cost. CI needs 8 A350 flights to have a similar capacity of 7 flights on the 77W. It's a great way to offer new frequencies (eg: making a route daily), redeploy the fleet or optimize load. |
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Post by addasih on Dec 28, 2016 18:56:01 GMT 1
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