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Post by Shadow123 on Jan 9, 2017 17:29:13 GMT 1
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Post by foreigner on Feb 12, 2017 23:48:58 GMT 1
accidentally noticed China Airlines going to Amsterdam via strange route... looks like they are flying around China! fr24.com/CAL73/c70a8c6 |
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Post by peter on Feb 13, 2017 15:28:54 GMT 1
accidentally noticed China Airlines going to Amsterdam via strange route... looks like they are flying around China! Not strange.... Usual  EDIT: The return is usual south of the Himalayas |
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Post by foreigner on Feb 14, 2017 11:35:01 GMT 1
byt why? are they not allowed to fly over China or is it due to something else?
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Post by mjoelnir on Feb 14, 2017 12:23:45 GMT 1
China Airlines is from Taiwan, read up about its history with mainland China.
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Post by tris06 on Feb 16, 2017 13:43:26 GMT 1
Seems London is getting a more serious consideration. Close to announcing? focustaiwan.tw/news/aeco/201702150014.aspxPrevious announcements were that they would use the A350 on this route. Doubt they would use a B777 as its too much capacity for a new route (LHR was discontinued with the A340 in 2012). A section of the article below. Taipei, Feb. 15 (CNA) China Airlines (CAL) Chairman Ho Nuan-hsuan (何煖軒) said on Wednesday the carrier plans to launch new routes to London and Paris, adding that he is optimistic the airline will perform better in the market place this year. "We could launch a new route to London in the fourth quarter of the year, but it depends on which airport we are flying to," Ho said, explaining that the most desirable aviation hub, Heathrow Airport, is already overcrowded. |
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Post by kevin5345179 on Feb 21, 2017 5:53:22 GMT 1
I'm actually really curious that China Airline offical FB page (I think it was 10/10) suggested that they will launch a new North America route this year. So far, they've been quite about it which is kind of weird .....
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Post by tris06 on Feb 21, 2017 16:29:32 GMT 1
Well plans do change. Also what came as a surprise is adding SFO weekly at first then increasing to 12/14 times per week. This was never expected to be an A350 route. That will take up around 3 A350 planes eventually (between regional ops)to service this route.
Remember other routes with older planes take priority as well. A340 routes have now all been replaced just recently. B747 route to Vancouver will be replace with a weekly A350.
Then you have also the medium haul Hawaii using the A330 until mid year or slightly later which needs to be swapped out.
Plus on top you will have the Australian routes (8-10hr flights) that eventually needs replacing.
Hence why after seeing SFO rostered on I can't see them having enough frames to start new routes.
Only exception is maybe LHR (Due to recent news) even i think its only a 50/50 of that happening this year still.
Now with the remaining 4 frames coming in 2018 I can finally see them having the frames to fill out their current routes and maybe 2 new routes...
Then if they want to do Milan and etc they definitely need to pick up the 6 options.
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Post by kevin5345179 on Feb 21, 2017 21:40:38 GMT 1
Well plans do change. Also what came as a surprise is adding SFO weekly at first then increasing to 12/14 times per week. This was never expected to be an A350 route. That will take up around 3 A350 planes eventually (between regional ops)to service this route. Remember other routes with older planes take priority as well. A340 routes have now all been replaced just recently. B747 route to Vancouver will be replace with a weekly A350. Then you have also the medium haul Hawaii using the A330 until mid year or slightly later which needs to be swapped out. Plus on top you will have the Australian routes (8-10hr flights) that eventually needs replacing. Hence why after seeing SFO rostered on I can't see them having enough frames to start new routes. Only exception is maybe LHR (Due to recent news) even i think its only a 50/50 of that happening this year still. Now with the remaining 4 frames coming in 2018 I can finally see them having the frames to fill out their current routes and maybe 2 new routes... Then if they want to do Milan and etc they definitely need to pick up the 6 options. I thought they might end up rotating aircraft between FRA and SFO with 77W+359 depending on the load factor as TPE FRA doesn't seem to do that well. According the data, load factor was some where in mid-60% for FRA TPE which isn't great compare to the other markets. |
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Post by tris06 on Feb 22, 2017 2:02:01 GMT 1
The problem is then the B777 is really not useful for most of CI's routes. So they need more A350'S and then get rid of the B777.
I mean the options are? Keep A330 on up to 10hr flights (Not fully flat beds and so they need to discount big time to compete).
If FRA is only at 60% capacity one wonders when they were flying the B747 which had greater number of seating.
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