philidor
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Post by philidor on Aug 2, 2017 9:43:56 GMT 1
May be not a problem for sales but certainly a problem of revenue for Airbus as they get paid at delivery of the aircraft. As long as no sales are lost, these revenues are deferred, not lost. If P&W makes good on its delivery commitments before year-end, then full-year results will be fine, as was the case last year with late A350 deliveries. If not, then most of the discrepancy will still be offset by slightly less profitable -ceo sales. That's why the share price did not take a major hit.
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s543
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Post by s543 on Aug 2, 2017 11:01:03 GMT 1
Airbus must be losing some sales, since the slower-than-planned -neo production ramp-up means lack of availability, but I don't see the problems as major. May be not a problem for sales but certainly a problem of revenue for Airbus as they get paid at delivery of the aircraft. That is exactly what I have written few posts back - they MUST FINANCE all those birds on the tarmac.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Aug 4, 2017 11:57:59 GMT 1
In a recent meeting with the Indian DGCA, P&W admitted that the modifications recently made to the PW1100G N° 3 bearing, to address its frequent failures, have not fully solved the problem. This must be what Enders alluded to when he called P&W engine fixes 'unreliable'. No mention of other modifications was made during the meeting. The combustion chambers fix is now expected in October (instead of September, if I remember correctly). www.firstpost.com/business/dgca-expresses-concern-over-grounded-indigo-goair-aircraft-3892869.html
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Post by Jkkw on Aug 18, 2017 16:43:06 GMT 1
I've decided to have a bit of a look at how many neos are currently out of service. Using FR24 and flightaware, the following number of neos haven't flown in the last week (There's a chance I've made an error or two but hopefully there aren't any!). Obviously this data will change over time but hopefully it provides a nice snapshot into the current state of A320neo operations. I've taken the aircraft delivered from the first post of the A320neo deliveries thread which I must say, is a very nice list so thanks to all who keep that updated! ) I'm not sure if it's better for this to be in this thread or the A320neo general discussion thread so I'm happy for it to be moved if people feel it's more appropriate there. PWIndiGo | 7/22 | 32% of fleet |
| GoAir | 2/5 | 40% of fleet |
| Latam | 1/2 | 50% of fleet |
| Spirit | 1/5 | 20% of fleet |
| China Southern | 3/7 | 43% of fleet |
| ANA | 2/3 | 67% of fleet | includes JA213A which has yet to enter service after delivery. Of the 1 aircraft in service, that aircraft hasn't flown since the 15th. |
Looking at all PW Neos, 16 out of 59 aircraft delivered or 27% have not flown in service in the past week. CFM
Only 1 aircraft, PR-YRD (Azul) has not been flying, which represents 1.2% of the 82 CFM neos (including A321neos) delivered. Looking a bit further, below is a list of the date of the latest flight of the aircraft I've listed as not having flown within the past week. 18 February | LATAM | PT-TMN | 13 March | Spirit | N905NK | 16 May | IndiGo | VT-ITG | 18 May | China Southern | B-8637 | 27 May | IndiGo | VT-ITM | 16 June | AZUL | PR-YRD (CFM) | 27 June | IndiGo | VT-ITJ | 4 July | China Southern | B-8673 | 8 July | IndiGo | VT-ITS | 9 July | ANA | JA212A | 14 July | GoAir | VT-WGC | 1 August | GoAir | VT-WGE | 3 August | ANA | JA213A (Aircraft has yet to enter service after delivery)
| 7 August | IndiGo | VT-ITP | 9 August | IndiGo | VT-ITQ | 10 August | China Southern | B-8671 | 11 August | IndiGo | VT-ITA |
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s543
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Post by s543 on Aug 18, 2017 19:48:47 GMT 1
Concerning PW - that is not a nice found. Let's hope the problems will be solved.......
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mtrunz
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Post by mtrunz on Aug 18, 2017 19:49:00 GMT 1
Jkkw Very nice work! i think I'm going to promote your post on my project Social Media if you are ok with that.
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Aug 18, 2017 22:33:56 GMT 1
Good post, jkkw ! It would be interesting to know how many sitting birds presently have no engine at all ... One of the issues is that P&W struggles to supply engines for both aircraft out of the FAL, and replacements.
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Post by Jkkw on Aug 19, 2017 2:16:39 GMT 1
Good post, jkkw ! It would be interesting to know how many sitting birds presently have no engine at all ... One of the issues is that P&W struggles to supply engines for both aircraft out of the FAL, and replacements. Jkkw Very nice work! i think I'm going to promote your post on my project Social Media if you are ok with that. Thanks!, Sure, go ahead mtrunz. Philidor's post had me thinking (and I'm sorry if it's already been mentioned upthread), regarding any hardware modifications that are needed to improve the reliability of the Pratts, would I be correct in assuming that they can just replace certain parts/sections of the engine or would they require a completely new engine?
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Aug 19, 2017 9:11:44 GMT 1
Philidor's post had me thinking (and I'm sorry if it's already been mentioned upthread), regarding any hardware modifications that are needed to improve the reliability of the Pratts, would I be correct in assuming that they can just replace certain parts/sections of the engine or would they require a completely new engine? I am sure existing engines can be upgraded and returned to service ... As soon as all replacement parts are available ! If shortage of these parts is holding engine deliveries, airlines and Airbus are left to wait. What I found most bothering is P&W's admission that N°3 bearing fixes did not fully solve the problem (see my August 4 post upthread), and Enders' comment that P&W fixes are not always reliable. I don't know what to expect now.
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s543
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Post by s543 on Aug 19, 2017 19:39:42 GMT 1
We do know that some of the GoAir engines were carried to the manufacturers plant i.e. something more serious was going on - and I am sure it slows all the processes....
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