Baroque
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Post by Baroque on Sept 12, 2018 0:31:28 GMT 1
A quick look at wikipedia gives a total order figure of 834 for the 777-300ER.
The 787-9 currently stands at 776 and the A350-900 at 722. These two are very much the top contenders to surpass the 777-300ER in becoming the most successful widebody. I can't see any variant of the 777X catching up with them in the future.
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Post by ghorn on Sept 12, 2018 7:52:20 GMT 1
The A330-300 has total orders of 787 but will certainly be overtaken by the 787-9 and the A350-900. How long for the 787-9 to get another 59 orders and overtake the 777-300ER ? It may come soon. What about the NMA, will we see a 797 challenging for the top spot ?
Geoff
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Post by Baroque on Sept 12, 2018 14:48:00 GMT 1
As with the 777X, I'd say that the market space for the 787-9 and the A350-900 is much bigger than for any potential variant of the NMA. If the NMA could overtake them, the business case for it would never have been this doubtful.
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Post by Baroque on Sept 19, 2018 2:15:51 GMT 1
ghorn , since you've been tracking widebody numbers closely, would you have a run down on the peak production rates achieved for the various aircraft?
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Post by ghorn on Sept 19, 2018 16:07:50 GMT 1
ghorn , since you've been tracking widebody numbers closely, would you have a run down on the peak production rates achieved for the various aircraft? Peak annual deliveries for widebody products/families Most of this I have just got from Wikipedia pages. 747. 92 in 1970, although 73 in 1980 better represents peak production. 767. 63 in 1992 777. 99 in 2014 and 2016 787. 137 in 2016 A300. 46 in 1982 A310. 29 in 1984 A330 108 in 2013 and 2014 A340. 33 in 1987 A350. 78 in 2017 A380. 30 in 2012 and 2014 Geoff
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Post by ghorn on Oct 9, 2018 17:05:47 GMT 1
I’ve added the Third Quarter ( September ) numbers for Airbus and Boeing to the sheet ; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LK3NGr1kFwYC9bk8u52J3X28fTAr3kPttsktJYHt2U8/edit?pli=1An end of quarter delivery surge with Boeing managing to hand over 18 787s in the month. Airbus could still get close to their record delivery numbers, whilst Boeing although delivering substantially more widebodies are likely to be short of record numbers. Passenger widebody deliveries for 2018 to date, with month of September total in brackets ; 787-9 93(16) A350-900 54(8) 777-300ER 27(3) A330-300. 19(3) A330-200. 12(1) includes 4 military MRTTs A380-800. 8(1) 787-8. 7(2) A350-1000. 7(2) 787-10. 6(0) In addition Boeing has delivered 30 widebody freighters in 2018 ; 5 x747, 15x767 and 10x777 just emphasising what important business this is for them. Geoff
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Post by ghorn on Nov 22, 2018 12:40:23 GMT 1
Belated monthly update, including October figures from Airbus and Boeing ; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LK3NGr1kFwYC9bk8u52J3X28fTAr3kPttsktJYHt2U8/edit?pli=1Passenger widebody deliveries for 2018 to date, with month of October total in brackets ; 787-9 102(9) A350-900 61(7) 777-300ER 27(0) A330-300. 19(3) A330-200. 13(1) includes 5 military MRTTs A350-1000. 9(2) A380-800. 8(0) 787-8. 8(1) 787-10. 8(2) In addition Boeing has delivered 30 widebody freighters in 2018 ; 5 x747, 14x767 and 11x777. Geoff
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Post by mjoelnir on Nov 22, 2018 12:58:40 GMT 1
I still find it strange the handling of the DC or MD frames and splitting them up between Boeing responsibility and McDonnell Douglas responsibility.
The Boeing of today is both a continuation of the Boeing company as well as a continuation of the McDonnell Douglas company. It was a merger, not a buy out or takeover. That the whole company has the Name of Boeing does not change that.
So the current Boeing Company is in the same way responsible for all the McDonnell Douglas models as they are responsible for the Boeing models.
So one should have a before and after merger for all models or none.
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Post by ghorn on Dec 12, 2018 1:07:05 GMT 1
Monthly update, including November figures from Airbus and Boeing ; docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LK3NGr1kFwYC9bk8u52J3X28fTAr3kPttsktJYHt2U8/edit?pli=1Passenger widebody deliveries for 2018 to date, with month of November total in brackets ; 787-9 108(6) A350-900 69(8) 777-300ER 29(2) A330-300. 22(1) A330-200. 14(1) includes 6 military MRTTs A350-1000. 12(3) A380-800. 10(2) 787-8. 10(2) 787-10. 10(2) A330-900. 1(1) In addition Boeing has delivered 36 widebody freighters in 2018 ; 6 x747, 16x767 and 14x777. Geoff
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Post by ghorn on Dec 12, 2018 1:53:17 GMT 1
I still find it strange the handling of the DC or MD frames and splitting them up between Boeing responsibility and McDonnell Douglas responsibility. The Boeing of today is both a continuation of the Boeing company as well as a continuation of the McDonnell Douglas company. It was a merger, not a buy out or takeover. That the whole company has the Name of Boeing does not change that. So the current Boeing Company is in the same way responsible for all the McDonnell Douglas models as they are responsible for the Boeing models. So one should have a before and after merger for all models or none. Thanks, I’ve merged Boeing and McDD figures as you suggest. Geoff
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