XWB
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Post by XWB on May 19, 2014 16:17:26 GMT 1
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philidor
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Post by philidor on May 19, 2014 18:00:33 GMT 1
I'm looking forward to CASK/CASM comparisons with the 787-9. As soon as the launching is confirmed by Airbus, a war of economic comparison breaks out ...
I would expect the 787-9 to retain some advantage in operating costs, that could however be offset by lower purchase/lease prices. Of course, Boeing will announce new engine PIPs and claim the 787 remains far ahead of the competition ...
What AW is silent about is other improvements that could be introduced by Airbus. What about winglets ?
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Post by XWB on May 19, 2014 18:40:11 GMT 1
I'm sure they will, but those PIP's will find their way to the A330neo as well.
The leehamnews.com sources say the A330neo will get new winglets.
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Post by Jkkw on Jun 1, 2014 11:05:12 GMT 1
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Post by philidor on Jun 1, 2014 12:19:20 GMT 1
What strikes me in the Reuters piece is the assertion that "Airbus has not decided whether to go ahead with the re-engined version of its most popular wide-body model amid an ongoing internal debate about whether to continue to offer it with more than one choice of engine."
This assertion is said to be based on "industry sources".
So, if we believe Reuters, the decision to launch an A330 NEO actually depends on a choice between a single-source engine or multiple sources. Most observers believed all engine manufacturers would demand a single-source solution.
EDIT : I clarified my last sentence.
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Post by Jkkw on Jun 1, 2014 15:23:29 GMT 1
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Post by philidor on Jun 1, 2014 18:24:58 GMT 1
I am surprised by Udvar-Hazy's comments. Usually, lessors don't like engine choices, since they make it more difficult to re-market an out-of-lease aircraft.
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Post by XWB on Jun 1, 2014 21:16:04 GMT 1
His comment refers to the A330neo in general, not to lessors. An engine choice will force the engine maker to compete and eventually lower the price, resulting in an even lower price for a complete A330neo airframe. And the cheaper the A330neo becomes the more it might sell.
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Post by s543 on Jun 2, 2014 2:37:41 GMT 1
One thing I am surprised - that AB believes they can sell over 1000 pcs of 330NEO - it seems to me as a LOT.  |
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Post by philidor on Jun 2, 2014 7:58:34 GMT 1
One thing I am surprised - that AB believes they can sell over 1000 pcs of 330NEO - it seems to me as a LOT. From JL's comments, we can guess what Airbus' and Boeing's respective marketing pitches would be : Airbus : this aircraft is as good as the 789 (unless you need its full range, but you don't !), much cheaper and readily available ! Boeing : if you don't need the range, then the logical choice for you is the 7810 ; it has additional capacity and better CASM. Airbus will contend that the 7810 is too much capacity and too expensive. If the NEO is close to the 789 in operating costs, then I believe Airbus can sell it ! |
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