XWB
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Post by XWB on Sept 4, 2014 22:07:33 GMT 1
Airbus sometimes delivers 60 airplanes in 1 month as well. August was a slow month due to the summer break in France.
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Post by philidor on Sept 4, 2014 22:32:47 GMT 1
Boeing's advantage in terms of delivery is reaching a peak this year (and most probably next year) thanks to the 787 and 737 production ramp up. From 2016, Airbus should catch up with A350 and A320 family deliveries.
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Post by s543 on Sept 5, 2014 8:58:34 GMT 1
Airbus sometimes delivers 60 airplanes in 1 month as well. August was a slow month due to the summer break in France. Agree there was summer break in August and what about last year - there was also summer break but the numbers were considerably higher.  |
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Post by s543 on Sept 5, 2014 9:03:07 GMT 1
OK let's hope the production of 320 line will go up with opening of USA factory, but still it is going to be bellow Boeing production. i.e. if you have two similar products - 700/319, 800/320 and you wait for one of them 8 years and the other only 5 ? It is obvious.
OK the situation with 900/321 is different - there you have much better product so you wait.
Also the production of the WB will o up with A350 taking off.
So let's hope the contest AB/BO will come back - last 1.5 year it is no competition - the BO production is simply significantly higher.
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Post by XWB on Sept 5, 2014 15:23:42 GMT 1
I'm not sure what you mean, both 737 and A320 are being produced at 42 jets per month.
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Post by philidor on Sept 5, 2014 17:05:48 GMT 1
I think I understand s543. With the A320neo family, Airbus has a close to 60% market share, but this does not reflect in deliveries, since Boeing has increased its production rate to have an availability advantage.
The difference between both airframers is twofold : Airbus tends to be more conservative than Boeing where production increases are concerned (it's not a mere matter of FAL, it is a supply chain issue), and the switch to neo production is coming soon. Airbus' priority is a smooth transition to the neo.
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Post by s543 on Sept 5, 2014 18:21:20 GMT 1
I'm not sure what you mean, both 737 and A320 are being produced at 42 jets per month. AB delivered 306 32s - BO 315 73x i.e. 9 more. Since AB has a bit over 60% orders the production speed is about the same (in 2014 1pc/month slower) logically the waiting time is considerably LONGER. BO states it will still increase the 73x production i.e. the waiting time for 32s is going to be relatively even longer - which gives BO HUGE selling advantage - which is visible right now. Simply it is the truth. I do understand there must be significant spare time covered by orders - but how long it should be is the billion dollars question ! Of course the production increase is complicated and long process - maybe some announcement would do miracles. |
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Post by XWB on Sept 5, 2014 23:16:40 GMT 1
So will Airbus? A320 production rate will hit 46 jets per month in Q2 2016.
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Post by philidor on Sept 5, 2014 23:48:00 GMT 1
Don't forget that the MAX will hit the market approximately two years later than the NEO. At that time, respective narrowbody backlog sizes may not be so different.
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Post by XWB on Sept 5, 2014 23:52:37 GMT 1
Indeed. In fact, since the launch of the MAX, Boeing captured 50% of the sales. Therefore I expect production levels for both OEM's to stay the same. I can see both Airbus and Boeing producing +- 50 jets per month around 2020.
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