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Post by someone on Mar 2, 2016 9:38:24 GMT 1
Quite surprised at how very minuscule the order numbers are for the A350 in China (mainland) compared to the Boeing rival. Only 10 firm from Air China and a doubtful 15 from Hong Kong Airlines (Hainan subsidiary). You are forgetting China Airlines with 14 on firm order. And more A350s to follow, China Eastern is rumored to order 20 A350s this month. China Airlines in not mainland China, but Taiwan. |
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Post by XWB on Mar 2, 2016 9:39:04 GMT 1
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Post by stealthmanbob on Mar 2, 2016 11:30:07 GMT 1
You are forgetting China Airlines with 14 on firm order. And more A350s to follow, China Eastern is rumored to order 20 A350s this month. China Airlines in not mainland China, but Taiwan. New York is an Island but still America ! you could also count the Cathay Pacific ones as well for China. |
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Post by philidor on Mar 2, 2016 11:51:19 GMT 1
China Airlines in not mainland China, but Taiwan. New York is an Island but still America ! you could also count the Cathay Pacific ones as well for China. Don't you think this comparison is a stretch ? (no aviation pun intended)   |
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Post by someone on Mar 2, 2016 11:52:52 GMT 1
China Airlines in not mainland China, but Taiwan. New York is an Island but still America ! you could also count the Cathay Pacific ones as well for China. No, the key here is that mainline Chineese airlines get their aircraft through CAAC based on some sort of allocation, and there is a lot of political involvement. And the completion center in Tianjin, as well as the A32x line, is part of this political game. Cathay is run by itself, and Beijing doesn't control Taiwan |
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Post by Jkkw on Mar 2, 2016 14:00:13 GMT 1
In addition to what someone said; When Hong Kong was handed back to China in 1997, the PRC Government initiated a 'One Country, Two Systems' policy where HKG and Macau will be part of China but governed separately with their own government and judicial systems etc. Going between HKG and China also require going through immigration. Taiwan meanwhile is quite a bit more complicated. After the rule of emperors ended in China the country was governed by the Republic of China (ROC). Then there was a civil war between the ROC and the communists with the communists winning, forcing the ROC government to flee to the island of Taiwan where the ROC has complete control. Whilst the PRC does not govern Taiwan and the ROC does not govern the mainland, the PRC claims that Taiwan is part of their territory and I think likewise the ROC claims the mainland as part of their territory. Back to Airbus, I think Bregier's comments might be in reference to what Boeing has done where their new facility in China is done in partnership with Comac www.bbc.com/news/business-34344067And as to why there are so few A350 orders, Chinese airlines effectively only plan their fleets 5 year in the future (govt policy I think) so availability of A350s becomes an issue. www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-eyes-the-wide-game-in-china-418637/ |
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Post by stealthmanbob on Aug 19, 2016 16:17:58 GMT 1
With the first A330 for completion in Tianjin MSN 1805 not that far away I was wondering ! As the A330 will be flown out of TLS to Tianjin, will It carry with it the components
(Or at least some of them) needed for the outfitting process ? It would save on shipping costs !
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Post by Jkkw on Nov 7, 2016 6:43:42 GMT 1
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Post by XWB on Mar 2, 2017 16:40:50 GMT 1
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