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Post by trumpton on Aug 6, 2014 10:03:01 GMT 1
Looks like she is ducking down and hiding. Poised and ready to pounce and devour some poor old unsuspecting outdated 747!
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Post by trumpton on Aug 4, 2014 7:47:26 GMT 1
All this will be cleared up when the order books will fill up a bit with time going forward. It is too early to estimate. AB also needs to rumps up production of the A350 and the capacities are finite, so..... I would not be afraid that much. Leahy seemed very confident about the numbers needed and they might have orders for some MRTTs. As head of sales Leahy has to be confident all of the time. At the end of the day he is a salesman. The only time I can ever remember him looking remotely worried was back when the German/French software problem threatened the 380 program.
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Post by trumpton on Aug 1, 2014 14:55:29 GMT 1
It may make sense but the current arrangement of building 380's in TLS and outfitting in XFW hasn't exactly been ideal. China is a bloody long away if there are any problems, especially if there has to be several transfer flights in each direction. The Chinese have a reputation for getting things done double quick so who knows. It does all look a bit unattainable though.
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Post by trumpton on Aug 1, 2014 9:51:07 GMT 1
How difficult would it be to convert these frames to cargo? I don't have a clue about the complexities of doing such a thing, but surely it would be quicker to do this than wait to have a complete new cabin made if the Skymark interior is not wanted or good enough? I'm probably being very naive suggesting this as I know a cargo interior would have to be manufactured and installed and that would take time as well. I also presume extra flight tests and certification would be needed, so perhaps it is a very silly idea. Nonetheless worth discussing? It would be expensive and very time consuming, especially as the aircraft isn't yet certified as a freighter. This also implies it would need to strengthen its floors etc, so while not impossible, completely unrealistic Thanks for that, I kinda thought it would be impossible.
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Post by trumpton on Aug 1, 2014 9:17:11 GMT 1
How difficult would it be to convert these frames to cargo? I don't have a clue about the complexities of doing such a thing, but surely it would be quicker to do this than wait to have a complete new cabin made if the Skymark interior is not wanted or good enough? I'm probably being very naive suggesting this as I know a cargo interior would have to be manufactured and installed and that would take time as well. I also presume extra flight tests and certification would be needed, so perhaps it is a very silly idea. Nonetheless worth discussing?
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Post by trumpton on Aug 1, 2014 8:34:21 GMT 1
Well at least it is good to see that IAG are turning half of their A350 options into firm orders along with an equal amount of 330 200's for Iberia to replace their 340's.
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Post by trumpton on Aug 1, 2014 7:56:51 GMT 1
We should also consider that AB is not dealing with only those two frames but probably other parts already manufactured and paid for to subcontractors.... Also the interior parts are probably manufactured - not installed but lay somewhere in the storage. Loss of the production slots usable by someone else etc. I am sure that those 200M€ would not do it - it is much more. The sale will eventually happen but will take some time and planning... and in between AB has to finance the whole thing. One thing is very probable - BC is on the way to the grave. Airbus are in a healthy(ish) financial position at the moment after just posting a 700m euro profit. They can afford to finance "the whole thing" temporarily, unlike poor old BC. Airbus are not going to lose any money out of this deal in the long term!
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Post by trumpton on Jul 31, 2014 19:31:45 GMT 1
I can't see Airbus not returning any cash to Skymark, even if they are entitled to keep all money paid so far. It would just be a win, win situation for Airbus and could be seen as an act of greed by the Asian carriers that Airbus are so desperate to woo. It would not reflect well on Airbus if their actions helped bring down an airline(however misguided BC's purchases seem). A bit of a Mexican stand off at the moment. Time will bring an amicable and sensible solution I hope.
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Post by trumpton on Jul 31, 2014 12:29:00 GMT 1
The low value of the Yen has affected BC's ability to afford the frames considerably. They are a relatively small airline mostly flying 737's and without any real strength of depth in their fleet. Sadly, I have a feeling that they just bit off more than they could chew.
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Post by trumpton on Jul 31, 2014 9:26:14 GMT 1
Personally I would like to see VS take them but I don't think that is likely unless they could negotiate a very good deal. I do remember in 2001 Virgin took 5 new 747 400's that were intended for AlItalia. That deal had much to do with Branson's entrepreneurial attitude, but with Delta's conservative influence these days I doubt that would happen.
I'm surprised Schiphol doesn't have greater capacity for the A380. Such a beautiful modern hub airport(my favourite European airport) deserves better infrastructure to support the lady.
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