mtrunz
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Post by mtrunz on Dec 30, 2017 22:51:46 GMT 1
Thank you very much guys! But Ok I should clarify: The delivery counts on my site are based on actual Delivery Flights only, not any contractual deliveries or whatever else. If any of you keep track of the other Deliveries stuff that’s great, but your numbers will differ. Nobody is right or wrong either, because all of these are unofficial anyways.  |
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s543
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Post by s543 on Dec 31, 2017 2:55:56 GMT 1
I just checked 5 random month - the total numbers - with the ONLY official data we do have - the AB xls and his site was in accordance.
The skyliner is not "official data" - it collects from various sources the flights - what is important is the contractual delivery and I do not believe we do have means to know how it is until the xls is published - In the case of BO until it is published in their web database.
mtrunz now has there 100 and I do believe there are planes that are contractually delivered and has not and will not fly out until few days in JAN.
I do not know how exactly he collects data - but I do believe he gets it from local spotters, skyliner, radars... and I do not believe he has access to official data until the xls is out. Also we can observe he quite often adjusts the data as the information is known - he might tell us more !
Just remember the famous A350 MSN 52+55 those are contractually already a year delivered and are still in TLS.
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mtrunz
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Post by mtrunz on Dec 31, 2017 6:41:01 GMT 1
I just checked 5 random month - the total numbers - with the ONLY official data we do have - the AB xls and his site was in accordance. The skyliner is not "official data" - it collects from various sources the flights - what is important is the contractual delivery and I do not believe we do have means to know how it is until the xls is published - In the case of BO until it is published in their web database. mtrunz now has there 100 and I do believe there are planes that are contractually delivered and has not and will not fly out until few days in JAN.I do not know how exactly he collects data - but I do believe he gets it from local spotters, skyliner, radars... and I do not believe he has access to official data until the xls is out. Also we can observe he quite often adjusts the data as the information is known - he might tell us more ! Just remember the famous A350 MSN 52+55 those are contractually already a year delivered and are still in TLS. Yep, that’s how it is. Funny thing is that I don’t ever look at the Airbus official delivery spreadsheets. I purely base it on actual flight activity reported from spotters (including contributors who tag me on social media) and flight trackers. But I’m glad the numbers are similar Anyways, i would say December Has been an incredible month for Deliveries and I’m glad that things are picking up with frames that have been stored. |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 31, 2017 10:27:47 GMT 1
XFW-Spotter makes it 558 A320 family delivery flights in 2017: xfw-spotter.blogspot.pt/7 A319 185 A320 161 A320neo 168 A321 19 A321neo |
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s543
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Post by s543 on Dec 31, 2017 11:13:29 GMT 1
XFW-Spotter makes it 558 A320 family delivery flights in 2017: xfw-spotter.blogspot.pt/7 A319 185 A320 161 A320neo 168 A321 19 A321neo Well according to AB xls until the end of NOV we were at 453 deliveries so he predicts 105 deliveries in DEC ( "-" DEC 2016 frames that flew out in JAN "+" DEC 2017 frames that will go out in JAN ) Incredible number ! |
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mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Dec 31, 2017 15:28:59 GMT 1
XFW-Spotter makes it 558 A320 family delivery flights in 2017: xfw-spotter.blogspot.pt/7 A319 185 A320 161 A320neo 168 A321 19 A321neo Well according to AB xls until the end of NOV we were at 453 deliveries so he predicts 105 deliveries in DEC ( "-" DEC 2016 frames that flew out in JAN "+" DEC 2017 frames that will go out in JAN ) Incredible number ! Actual delivery flights are not the same as deliveries according to the Airbus spreadsheets. A few of the A320 family frames delivered in 2016 according to Airbus, will have had its delivery flight in 2017. So one should either track deliveries according to Airbus or delivery flights. Apart from that, I assume the 558 delivery flights to be a new record. |
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s543
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Post by s543 on Dec 31, 2017 16:07:17 GMT 1
( "-" DEC 2016 frames that flew out in JAN "+" DEC 2017 frames that will go out in JAN ) Actual delivery flights are not the same as deliveries according to the Airbus spreadsheets. A few of the A320 family frames delivered in 2016 according to Airbus, will have had its delivery flight in 2017. So one should either track deliveries according to Airbus or delivery flights. Apart from that, I assume the 558 delivery flights to be a new record. That is obvious and exactly what I was writing - we can (easily) observe the flights, but the real deliveries are obtainable once the xls is out - no earlier. On the end (with few notable and well known exceptions) it is usually "few" days only. |
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Post by marlibu on Dec 31, 2017 17:31:20 GMT 1
wit all the engine issues, i'm quite pleased to see the difference between ceos and neos to be so small... can't wait to track the deliveries next year....
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Post by addasih on Jan 1, 2018 4:18:25 GMT 1
Moved here so deliveries when officially announced will be updated here
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Post by kevin5345179 on Jan 2, 2018 16:46:24 GMT 1
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