mjoelnir
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Post by mjoelnir on Oct 8, 2019 11:57:05 GMT 1
But could they technically still build them after any CEO production has been terminated? I do not see any difficulties to keep producing a mix of A330ceo and A330neo. They are as it is produced on the same line. Changes to the fuselage, as for example removing A340 features, does not make the fuselage unsuitable to produce a A330ceo. It would just bring about a slightly lighter ceo. The changes to the wing should also not be insurmountable, if Airbus needs a set of ceo wings, they just build them. The wings for the MRTT are anyway special. |
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philidor
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Post by philidor on Oct 8, 2019 23:48:37 GMT 1
I would expect cabin suppliers to drop this line of business soon after the last passenger aircraft has been delivered. Airbus however will keep building -ceo frames for MRTT production. I don't know whether the freighter has a sales potential or not.
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Nov 8, 2019 9:11:42 GMT 1
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Dec 6, 2019 0:34:19 GMT 1
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Jan 10, 2020 23:21:21 GMT 1
December changes to unfilled orders for A330-200/300 according to Airbus spreadsheet
A330-200
One A330-200 delivered as MRTT
No cancellations or conversions
No new MSNs reported
Remaining orders 20 out of total of 660
Government / Military 12
Iran Air 8
A330-300
No deliveries
4 cancellations for Hong Kong Airlines
No new MSNs reported
Remaining orders 15 out of total of 785
Hong Kong Airlines 5
CASC 8
Aer Lingus 1
Egypt Air 1
Geoff
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Feb 13, 2020 14:42:22 GMT 1
December changes to unfilled orders for A330-200/300 according to Airbus spreadsheet A330-200 One A330-200 delivered as MRTT No cancellations or conversions No new MSNs reported Remaining orders 20 out of total of 660 Government / Military 12 Iran Air 8 A330-300 No deliveries 4 cancellations for Hong Kong Airlines No new MSNs reported Remaining orders 15 out of total of 785 Hong Kong Airlines 5 CASC 8 Aer Lingus 1 Egypt Air 1 Geoff No changes in the Airbus January figures. I’m certain now that the last A330ceo built for passenger use is the A330-300 being prepared for delivery to Aer Lingus. I understand that the 5 frames for Hong Kong Airlines have been built and are stored pending a resolution with HNA. They will probably be made available on the open market. Apart from the 12 MRTTs all other outstanding orders will be cancelled or converted. Geoff |
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Apr 15, 2020 13:25:26 GMT 1
As at the end of March unfilled orders for A330-200/300 according to Airbus spreadsheet ;
A330-200
One A330-200 delivered as MRTT
Remaining orders 19 out of total of 660
Government / Military 11 ( MRTTs )
Iran Air 8
A330-300
Final (?) A330-300 delivered to Air Lingus
Remaining orders 14 out of total of 785, awaiting cancellation or conversion.
Hong Kong Airlines 5
CASC 8
Egypt Air 1
Geoff
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Post by airboche on Apr 16, 2020 8:55:02 GMT 1
Will the MRTT remain on future offer or will this have to end with the commercial A330ceo production? Is there any neo-MRTT in the pipeline?
Boeing NG-based P-8 looks like being offerable in the future when otherwise only MAXs might be commercially built.
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ghorn
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Post by ghorn on Apr 16, 2020 20:33:02 GMT 1
Will the MRTT remain on future offer or will this have to end with the commercial A330ceo production? Is there any neo-MRTT in the pipeline? Boeing NG-based P-8 looks like being offerable in the future when otherwise only MAXs might be commercially built. I believe the -200 can continue to be produced for MRTT conversion, alongside the -800/900. Probably not enough demand to justify a new MRTT based on the -800. Geoff |
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Post by airboche on Apr 16, 2020 20:50:27 GMT 1
Just think the USAF tired of waiting adds a second tanker to their list? Like we just need something now and maybe as part of some bigger deal? I think the MRTT should be kept on offer. How about Europe taking some more P-8 and the US some MRTT?
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